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It's Time Brazil Gives Marcola, the Mafia Boss, a Cabinet Post PDF Print E-mail
Written by Janer Cristaldo   
Thursday, 18 May 2006

Brazilian Drug Lord Marcos Camacho, the MarcolaIt might be 5 pm of Monday afternoon. I was coming back from a late lunch. The waiter warns me in the restaurant that a curfew had been decreed in Avenida Paulista. Exaggeration of some journalist, I told myself.  While paying, the waiter warned me that the curfew had been extended to Higienópolis, my neighborhood. Well, now things were getting a little too far.

At Angélica Avenue, there was something odd. We could feel a jittery traffic, people itching to go out not to come in. Close to  Buenos Aires square, I bump into a couple of female friends. "What are you doing here? You should be home." Frightened, they were running to their apartments. They also alerted me to the fact that we were under a curfew and that the curfew had been decreed by the organized crime. "Total nonsense" - I muttered as I kept walking carefree.

I decided, however, to pay closer attention to the world around me. Bars getting closed, schools and stores also closing their doors, even the shopping malls locking up. I reconsidered what the waiter had told me. All seem to indicate, this was a honest-to-good curfew.

I walked to my maître-traiteur, I thought about buying some champagne to celebrate the stalemate. Closed. The bakery is across the street, I went there. There were throngs of people getting in line, amassing supplies as if we were in time of war. I gave up. After all, I had enough wine in my cellar to endure many prolonged states of siege. And a day-old bread can always be eaten today.

I got home muttering against the foolishness of a government that feeling impotent in face of  banditry, decides to order a curfew just to pretend that it is doing something. I turned on the TV: reports and alarming interviews, authorities finding out the obvious, that is essential to get rid of the cell phone among the inmates to end this terror wave in São Paulo, which in the last 48 hours resulted in 86 corpses, more than half of them policemen. But there is no word on curfew. I looked then on the Internet. Nothing at all.

The closest mention I could find was a news item at the Terra site. The stores on Teodoro Sampaio street, in the west zone of São Paulo, and on 13 de Maio plaza, in the south zone, had closed their doors. According to shopkeepers, the order to close the doors had come from the policemen patrolling the area.

All seem to indicate, that the rumor spread around town and the firms started to send their employees home. Many buses were not circulating  and the bus stops were filled with frightened people anxious to get home. Traffic tripled and jams became as bad as those on Fridays. Cell phone lines got congested and the devices became mute.

The Paulistanos are afraid, say the newspapers. Nothing of the kind. About 30 years ago, Veja magazine - maybe it was Realidade, I can't remember - had this headline: "São Paulo, the fear capital." Since then, Paulistanos have learned how to deal with fear. Nobody is immune from theft, kidnapping or murder in this city.

We are not safe either in the street or in extreme security condominiums. The Paulistano has just decided to keep on living. If something happens what can be done? In a state that doesn't offer any guarantee of minimum security to its citizens, crime is not a crime, but bad luck.

Now that the organized crime decided to show who's the boss in town, the ones afraid are the authorities. The Paulistano is just a tad apprehensive. After all, if the police don't feel secure, how can I, common citizen feel secure?

Marcola, the outlaw believed to be the leader who ordered the attacks against  the police, was quite clear when talking to a police chief: "I can go into a police station and kill a policeman, but a policeman cannot go inside the prison to kill me because the state has the duty to protect me".

Behind his challenge is the peace of mind of a criminal with safe-conduct from NGOs and entities linked to the so-called Human Rights movement, plus the complicity of politicians and leniency of  judges. He knows that, if he suffers as little as a scratch, Security Secretaries can be beheaded and they might even have to face a jury. As for policemen he can order their killing at ease. No human rights entity will denounce a policeman's death.

The Paulistano lives well with fear. Who hasn't yet learned how to live with fear is the police. To share their panic, without any court order, they coerced store owners to close their shops. The rumor ran across town and - for honor and glory of the banditry - São Paulo stopped.

The newspapers, even the most serious of them, can't resist a touch of sensationalism. The past day was painted as a terror day. As a matter of fact it was the day of the big fiasco. São Paulo was paralyzed by rumors, nothing more that rumors. The press shows throngs of people fleeing looking for shelter at home.

Now,  it wasn't really like that. Once bars, stores, shopping malls, schools, are closed what else is there to do but to go home? Frightened by the radio and TV sensationalism Paulistanos bestowed upon the PCC (the prison gang First Command of the Capital) a power the criminal gang does not have, that of paralyzing a city of 10 million inhabitants.

São Paulo is overdoing it. We are still far from experiencing terror. Real terror will happen when the first car bombs start to explode. When this fateful day arrives then the PCC will in fact have power over the city.

For now, the PCC's exercises its power in other instances, through the authorities. When they chose to negotiate with the Lord of the War, the so-called Marcola, the State and  the police surrendered loathsomely to organized crime. When the Lord of the War threatened the police chief saying that he could enter a police station and kill a policeman, the chief cowered putting his tail between his legs.

If it weren't enough the arrogance of the all-powerful criminal, the PCC's spokesman, attorney  Anselmo Neves, issued a new threat. If the state of São Paulo didn't accept the gang's revindications and didn't soften the severity of the Differentiated Disciplinary Regime (RDD), the tension would  increase in the coming days.

Scared, the authorities ran to Marcola's cell. The State, meekly, negotiates a cease-fire with the criminal responsible for the slaughters. With a simple call, the Lord of the War ends a conflict that two hundred thousand armed men were not able to control.

What can we expect for the coming years? Whenever the inmates revindications are not met the criminals will unleash a new wave of slaughters. Marcola is in the best place he could be: in a maximum security cell, protected by hundreds of policemen. Were he commanding the war in the battlefield he might run the risk of being wounded and even killed. Imprisoned, he runs no risk.

The State surrendered shamefully. The PCC was victorious all the way. No surprise there. If some command the crime from a São Paulo jail, others command the crime from a ministry in Brasília.

What else can you expect from a country that had recently as minister a terrorist trained in Cuba and today has as minister a woman who used to rob banks? What are we waiting to hand over a ministry to Marcola?

He at least takes his job seriously.

Janer Cristaldo - he holds a Ph.D. from University of Paris, Sorbonne - is an author, translator, lawyer, philosopher and journalist and lives in São Paulo. His e-mail address is This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Translated from the Portuguese by Arlindo Silva.

Comments (118)Add Comment
Good article
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 10:23:49
Nice text, i agree with you on this issue. But anyway you people from Sao Paulo probably didn't realise yet that the real criminals are the police.

More than half of our "police force" is involved with corruption, other crimes or is blatantly on the other side of the fight. Not something to blame them for, if you look at their salary.

Sure there are honest police men that really stand up for the country... and thats the only reason why i dont propose electing Marcola for presidence and giving Brazil a chance, because he is really serious about what he does, unlike some random Lula whats-his-name that is our current president.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 10:34:42
Absolutely. Sao Puolo is far from been taken by Marcola and his
midget monkeys. With thius action of terror and disrrespect for innocent families they grew down. Brazil should worry for these criminosos to the point of loosing the real perspective of the problem. Please, do not missunderstand me. This is a serious matter and serious and inteligente measures must be taken to deal with the present Marcola and the like ones that me come down the road. What is more worrysome in the lack of imagination and decision making of the police and the state. How can you negotiate with the person that cut off a finger of your left hand and wants to cut to cut off your the whole? The governor of Sao Paulo just gave in. Now, he needs to give up the govenorship. He is not up to the job. El pueblo de Sao Paulo deserves better.
This is just one of the problems Brazilians need to take care of. Anther one is to take care of parazites in the senado who spent months investigating with not concrete results., instead to protecting their own kind with millions in las cuecasor in Switzwrland, they should look for solution to the problems of the pais.
Nicely written, remember six of one half
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 11:05:05
The government still imports a majority of all narcotics into the US via the military, as has been done since the early seventies. On a smaller scale since the mid sixties. A major source of income for the North, Central and South American governments come from drug sales. The west is not alone in this game, but Ill keep it simple for now. They have their hand in it all. Cocaine, heroin, cannabis҅ Whether you use, sell or choose not to let it into your life it still affects you in a big way. It does not care about the color of your skin, your religious beliefs, your political views. Its just pot, it doesnҒt hurt any one. Spark it up! You are now doing exactly what they expect of you. They now have you completely under control.

With the help of drug gangs the governments are controlling your life. The final solution, Controlled Demolition.

Regards, an American/Brazilian/Porto Rican
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 11:07:05
Remember six of one, half dozen of the other
Thin Line Between 1st and 3rd World
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 12:31:37
Making deals with organized crime to keep peace - sounds like the New York and Chicago story. Perhaps there are lessons to be learned when finally a few good US leaders (e.g. T. Roosevelt) bravely stepped up and reorganized the corrupt US law enforcement, paid them a decent salary, insitutionalized them and slowly began to dilute the organized crime strangleholds

However, they are still there to a degree in the US, as are crooked cops, and as a US resident, I see our law enforcement always still on that edge between 1st and 3rd World.

Brazil first and foremost needs to finally institutionalize their police and judiciary so they stay straight and learn how to defuse disorder in a respectful but very firm manner.

The next step is to break the Human Rights and Church yoke, as neither of these organizations truly work for human rights. Criminals break social contracts that we all agree to. In that, they lose their rights. They dont deserve to be tortured, but their disregard from our social contract earns them hard punishment, isolation, and tough measures. Again look to the US as an example of what not to do - we're so soft on criminals, that there is little fear of going to jail. There's more opportunities in the bighouse than in the streets. Prison must be something to fear, and we all need to stop cowering to lawyers, advocates, journalists and academics who bang on the Human Rights drum merely to forward their personal interests.





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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 14:12:00
quote:

"I see our law enforcement always still on that edge between 1st and 3rd World."

Ya know, people like you make me laugh. Always trying to be "politically correct" or say something so it doesn't hurt someones feeling.

As an american living in brazil for the last 8 years, and living in the U.S. for 40 before that, comparing the police force in the U.S. with the brazilian police force is not only inaccurate, but ignorant. They couldn't be more different in their professionalism and overall committment to their work. That comment is a true insult to american police that is unquestionably undeserved.

You don't have normal traffic cops that ask for bribes 80% of the time to let you get out of a ticket. You don't have cops that tend to "look the other way" the majority of the time when a law is broken. You normally don't have police in the U.S. that are doing business, hand in hand, with the very thieves they're hired to put in jail....this happens in brazil a LARGE percentage of the time.

Why don't you look at some of the surveys that have been taken over the last week.....a LARGE percentage of brazilians, in particular Paulistas, are MORE afraid of the police than of criminals!!!

I'll be willing to bet if you've ever been to brazil, its never been more than a week or two in some tourist area.

The ignorance of some of you people is truly impressive.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 14:37:13
YEAH - the US Federal Government reserves the right to blackmail, kill indiscriminately, tap phones, monitor computers, look the other way at corporate criminal behavior and do business with truly criminal companies like Halliburton/KBR (now building domestic internment camps for your pleasure) and the Carlyle Group - All companies that make Sao Paulo style crime look tame by comparison. f**k Halliburton bills the government in one week what an entire drug cartel in Brazil makes in a year! In addition the US Federal Government reserves the right to invade sovereign countries, assassinate world leaders and arrange/stage coups. Yes we leave the big stuff to the Federal Gov. in the USA. They get the job done!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 14:47:07
thank god the big stuff is left up to them, cause if it was left up to brazilians they would've already destroyed the planet by now.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 14:49:28
quote:

"In addition the US Federal Government reserves the right to invade sovereign countries"

Well any country reserves that right s**t for brains, if they're security is threatened.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 14:51:50
quote:

"tap phones"

who's tapping phones?? There is a difference between a phone being tapped and numbers that have been dialed are being recorded to detect a pattern.

Tapping is when actualy conversations have been listened to....and that has not happened. Unless you know something the rest of us don't....LOL. f**king moron.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:06:57
the american government have written the book on terror, it might not happen on street level on daily bases but the only way they could stay the super power and as rich as they are is because they are the cause of death and misery in so many other countries.
things are not as peachy as you say in america and to find ignorance try looking in the mirror.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:08:15
quote:


"YEAH - the US Federal Government reserves the right to blackmail, kill indiscriminately, tap phones, monitor computers, look the other way at corporate criminal behavior and do business with truly criminal companies like Halliburton/KBR (now building domestic internment camps for your pleasure) and the Carlyle Group - All companies that make Sao Paulo style crime look tame by comparison. f**k Halliburton bills the government in one week what an entire drug cartel in Brazil makes in a year! In addition the US Federal Government reserves the right to invade sovereign countries, assassinate world leaders and arrange/stage coups. Yes we leave the big stuff to the Federal Gov. in the USA. They get the job done!!"


Colombian Drug Lord Arrested in Brazil Managed Empire from So Paulo


http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/6420/53/


Yep, ranking him right up there with pablo escobar. Has lived in sao paulo for the last 3 years!! Even owned an art gallery!!

Naturally this operation was driven and spear-headed by the DEA, left up to the corrupt latin american countries they can't do something like this without "big brother" looking over their shoulder, everyone would have their hand out and to hell with justice or the millions he poisons...as long as we get PAID.

Funny how many criminals flee their countries and decide to come to brazil.....wonder why that is?
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:13:58
quote:

"the american government have written the book on terror, it might not happen on street level on daily bases but the only way they could stay the super power and as rich as they are is because they are the cause of death and misery in so many other countries.
things are not as peachy as you say in america and to find ignorance try looking in the mirror."

Ya know what, you may be right that the U.S. MAY be a reason why many countries have problems...but you know what?? For the mostpart, the U.S. takes care of its own!!! And isn't that what a governments supposed to do??

Look at the brazilian governement...they f**k their own people at every turn and opportunity!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:22:31
we all must assume that the earth is one state and not only try to take care of your own, who is your own anyways...these people in all these different countries are not human, is that what you think?
american government is the biggest bully out there right now and nobody likes bullies, ask anyone in any country, ive been around and i can see that every other country is being f**ked over by american ,,,,
by the way americans dont take care of their own, if you belive that you re blind the only thing they are protecting is money and power
stay human
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:27:43
how in the world can one gov't., or several, have everyones best interest at heart, when you have thieving governments like the one that exists here in brazil?? And naturally, brazil is not the only one, there are many that are nearly as bad, and even a couple worse, but the brazilian gov't. ranks right up there with the worst of them on the planet in corruption, and what makes it worse is that in this country you literally have people that die from malnutrition, dehydration, etc. When a brazilian politician steals, and it happens everyday, he's literally killing his own people.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:34:41
Well any country reserves that right s**t for brains, if they're security is threatened.

The US and a handful of other countries are the only ones that can do so s**t For Brains . . . When was the last time you think India feared invasion by Bangladesh. Behold Brazzil.com readers - A Dumya fan and true American idiot. He actually still believes that Iraq threatened our safety with those big, bad weapons of mass destruction. f**king idiot!!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:38:39
no dickwad, I'm no dubwa fan, lol. I didn't vote for him in either election, so stick your assumptions up your ass.

The U.S. and a "handful" of other countries?? You mean the countries with militaries huh numbnutz??? Hmmmm, there's only 100+ of those!!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:40:23
Tapping is when actualy conversations have been listened to....and that has not happened. Unless you know something the rest of us don't....LOL. f**king moron.

Behold another f**king American idiot who doesn't actually know that they have listened in on conversations. You honestly never heard of ECHELON? They have been filtering most calls for over 20 years and emails since they existed. Who is the real f**king gullible American retard here? You are the reason Americans are seen as naive and ignorant everywhere they go. He honestly doesn't think that they have actually listened to anyone's conversations - love the naivete f**khead!! Bet you voted for Bush didn't you s**thead!! Thanks to people like you the US is the most hated country on earth. a*****e!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:41:18
yes its sad to see a country like brazil , so rich in resources with so much diversity to be in so much misary.
your culure is amazing , your hearts are full of music and joy, what you need to forget is the AMERICAN way of life,,,
when greed takes over we stop to listen to the hearth,
the only way we can survive ourselves is to STAY HUMAN
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:42:53
The U.S. and a "handful" of other countries?? You mean the countries with militaries huh numbnutz??? Hmmmm, there's only 100+ of those!!!

Yeah and all of those 100+ can muster the resources to take their military half-way around the world to invade a country like - oh let's say Iraq? Eh s**thead? Do you think? Drrrrr. *wipes the spittle off his chin*

Don't believe this f**khead - you KNOW he voted for Bush!! LOL!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:51:59
LOL...what a f**king idiot!! Bud, the last election I didnt even vote, first time ever, because I didnt like either of those losers, and in 2000 I voted for Gore. Yet I'm not bleeding heart f**king liberal like yourself....let's all sing "We are the World" and then let everyone f**k the U.S. 7 ways from Sunday...kinda like the illegals are doing right now to the U.S.

Thank god the U.S. isn't left up to pussies like you or we'd be another Canada at best.

And to the amazing idiot who posts, "ohhh you lovely brazilians with your beautiful culture and hearts filled with music", LMAO!!! For the love of christ man, wake up a spit!!! Have you heard of Maluf?? Lovely man that guy, stole 480 million dollars of public money! Spent 30 DAYS in jail! Fernando Collar....240 MILLION dollars!! Resigned from the presidency...ya know where he lives now??? MIAMI!!!! He knows where the f**k to live and where not to! A little scam called MENSALA....heard of that one??? It's recent...LOL!! Lovely people these brazilians...please, come here, make sure to bring a million dollars or so with you.....they'll f**k you six ways from saturday and you'll be calling the american embassy to put you on a military plane back home because they'll have even taken your shirt!!! LOL!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:53:56
I heard those lovely people were at it again in Sao Paulo earlier this week???

Bunch of sweethearts those brasilieros!!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:57:39
I remember reading books that talked about a high crime in the USA during the early parts of the 20th century. What did the federal government do, it created a national witness protection program. Crime fell by some 50 percent! The police in Brazil needs to be better paid, but that wont resolve crime. Sao Paulo has been slowly increasing pay but that has not helped, although crime in the city of Sao Paulo has fallen 50 percent! They need more and better training and I believe the name Military Police needs an overhaul. Yes, the police needs better weapons and training but the reorganization of the police force is a must. Too many times they enter in tough situations and begin shooting innocent people. This creates a mentality of police is the judge and jury. Of course, the entire judicial system is slow but thats because Brazil has 10,000 judges for a country of 182 million! Also, prisons are packed. So what does the middle-class say, shoot the prisoners instead of saying build more jails, equip the jails with books, and force them to finish their education. Also by creating more cells, you can reduce overcrowding and finally begin to rebuild the penal structure. The RDD is a excellent system and should be replicated in more areas throughout the country. Brazil needs to build more maximum security jails in the state of Sao Paulo since most of the criminals are from there and most of the crime occurs in that state, mostly because 25 percent of all Brazilians live there.
Who has the courage to improve the entire judicial code? I don't know but the Congress needs to stop adopting stop gap measures only after a crisis, and needs to finally revampt the entire police/judicial system even if the police unions, senators or powerful internal forces resist. People are tired of the status quo yet I love and will never leave Sao Paulo !
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 16:00:44
Thank god the U.S. isn't left up to pussies like you or we'd be another Canada at best.

Like Canada - If only . . . It's because it's [America] left up to f**king ignorant s**theads like you that it's sinking like the Titanic . .

You're a big tough guy here on Brazzil.com but we know you shut the f**k up and look down when you're walking around in the city. I bet you would cry like a little bitch the first time someone actually overheard you talking about Brazil like that and threatened to crush your empty skull for you. Look at the strong words of the real pussy who tells Brazilians what a wonderful country it is to their faces then criticizes it here where he doesn't have to share who he is. You're the f**king pussy!!! Probably always have been too!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 16:16:01
Because of a MALUFs and marcolas brazilians can't be decent people? open you r heart there and try to see the world with other eyes, maybe it make your life more fulfilling? Man, really, I need more friends but you? I know why I feel angry with the rednecks but why you feel that way toward brasilians btw? they did somthing personally to you or your people? b/c with me rednecks do but with you? it's b/c of the visas? that is just some paint on your finger, no more.




"thank god the big stuff is left up to them, cause if it was left up to brazilians they would've already destroyed the planet by now"

que idiota! these idiotic comments make me laugh. Valeu!
Sorry but....
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 16:50:26

...he already has a cabinet post : his cell with mobile phones !
...S.P. police, government already negotatited in the recent past with the PCC.
...They even agreed and accepted the requests made by the PCC ! strange isnt it, to deal and negotiate with criminals ?
Unheard of in a civilized nation !

... and they re-negotiated again this time. Accepting to negoatiate means that you have no other way, but it also shows how weak your government and police are !
And criminals know and understand this. They just made your government put a knee down. Criminals are smiling and laughing to see how weak you are.

They are the winners !
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 16:54:10
quote:

"I bet you would cry like a little bitch the first time someone actually overheard you talking about Brazil like that and threatened to crush your empty skull for you."

Really? Just yesterday I was talking to a high-ranking member in my state for the PT party....and let him have the same s**t that I've said here. And of course he started in on the "U.S. thinks they're the worlds police". You think I'm afraid to voice my opinion?? I pay taxes in this m'fer, absurd taxes by the way, and employ numerous brazilians, as well as have family, brazilian. I bitch about the U.S. when I think it's appropriate, you think I'm not going to bitch about brazil just because I wasn't born here? Or you think I'm some kind of internet pussy?? LOL!!

Just by you making that statement obviously you are that very type of pussy. I don't have time for idiots like yourself who's never put his ass, nor money, on the line for anything. Go back to school boy or read some books and THINK you know how the real world works from reading about it.

I tell it to 'em just how it is, and if they don't like


quote:

""thank god the big stuff is left up to them, cause if it was left up to brazilians they would've already destroyed the planet by now"

que idiota! these idiotic comments make me laugh. Valeu!"

Really?? Well, just last year your government allowed a piece of the amazon to be destroyed the size of the state of Massachusetts, you guys will f**k that up in no time flat.
Good article !
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 16:56:20


But there was never 200'000 SP armed men trying to control the criminals !
A car bomb has far less....
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 16:58:01


deaths and collateral damage than what these criminals did !
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 17:05:38
really...a car bomb??? They only torched 100 buses for the love of god!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 18:00:09
yes i think those brasileros are cool ant the brasileras are even sweeter,, out of 20 milion people only a hand full are causing all this s**t,
and yes i do live in canada and love it here , who wouldnt want to live in a peace full country like this...the only treat is comming from the state side and the terror they cause to everyone...because in caos there is profit and nobody knows that better than united state and the so called great britain.
love and peace
stay human
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 18:04:45
stay human dude, peace, love, togetherness.

"We are the world, we are the children, we are the ones to make a brighter day so let's start givin'

....for the love of god man, you've never even been to brazil....LOL. Go stick your dick in a maple tree.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 18:12:09
many times ive been to brass to bom retiro, and to paulista ave, ive styed for months in praca du ripublica, i walked the carnaval in salvador rio, and been to many many smaller town sorouning these cities, i live in canada but i am iranian ,,, ive live through war , ive seen my friends loosing thier lives,,, i know what greed has done to my country , i know the price of living in a oil rich country, ive seen the best and the worst of the human nature and choose to stay human....thats the only way in my opinion
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 18:17:20
oh yeah i forgot to mention im getting married to a beautifull paulista.....
thank you brazil
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 18:22:17
well good for you, but it would be nice if you would stop pidgeon-holing 300,000,000 people by some stupid actions by their president or gov't.

Should we assume that you're a confrontational agressor because the current leader of Iran is snubbing his nose at the U.N. and the international community while stating he'll continue to enrich high-grade plutonium and threaten to nuke Israel?
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 18:28:03
i can only assume that you are american....as the history proves the only people in the world so far that actually used the nuclear weapons and killed countless numbers of people are americans so dont even go there ....
the iranian government is an american pupet and have been for all of my life anyways. what ever they decide to do will profit the united state im sure of it....
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 18:30:44
in case you weren't aware, they're in bed with the chinese and russians now.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 18:40:15
I tell it to 'em just how it is, and if they don't like

Uh I doubt it idiota! Some peopole in my neighborhood will have killed your f**king stupid ass allready pentelho! If I see you I will do it myself!! lol!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 18:44:33
really? Well, believe it son! And these internet threats are so scary....if you saw me, you'd s**t your pants.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 19:43:55
I bet he would s**t himself too. Probably piss himself with laughter while he was at it!! Grrrrrr Tough Guy!!! Don't worry about that dickhead - he just has a dirty Harry complex. He's a HUGE PUSSY - you can bet on it!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 20:27:54
I didn't start the juvenile internet threat horses**t...give me a break!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 20:39:52
typical brazilian, threaten to kill someone because another talks about the problems in brazil....god forbid!! WTF is that?
Welcome to the Octagon
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 06:58:16
Everybody shut the f**k up with all these meaningless threats, because anyways if you met me outside of the electronic world I'm confident I wouldn't hear a peep from you. And if I do hear any slander brought forth about this post, or me, or any of my kinfolk, you can rest assured that your ass will be hexed. That's right, I'll get VOO-DOO on ya.

Separately, the supposed Iranian who lives in Canada should learn better english, he sounds like a complete "hoser."
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 07:48:15
Someone’s throwing a tantrum. You all make my job so much easer. You will all perish and your souls will belong to me.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 07:52:21
typical brazilian, threaten to kill someone because another talks about the problems in brazil....god forbid!! WTF is that?

Yeah you Americans would be well served to shut your f**king mouths and concentrate on the steady deterioration of your own civil liberties, basic freedoms and tanking economy. You've got plenty to worry about so why not piss off and go somewhere else and add something constructive about your own hideously grotesque fascist country. WTF is that? Yeah god forbid you actually address your own f**king problems in the US. Idiot!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 07:58:08
Everybody shut the f**k up with all these meaningless threats, because anyways if you met me outside of the electronic world I'm confident I wouldn't hear a peep from you. And if I do hear any slander brought forth about this post, or me, or any of my kinfolk, you can rest assured that your ass will be hexed. That's right, I'll get VOO-DOO on ya.


I'll go on and risk the Voodoo and hazard a guess that you are actually one of the biggest pussies around. Probably flex in the mirror after getting pumped with 5 kilo barbells . . . Really -hard guys never have to broadcast the fact that they are bad motherf**kers. Now go hit the treadmill bad-ass!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 09:47:22
well basically, everyone on the planet takes their shots at the U.S., and so do most americans...it's no bid deal, we're used to bitching about our government and situations that exist. If one doesn't at least make his voice heard, he has no right to complain later. Americans are accustomed to this, by any and all.

But....let a foreigner, a "non-brazilian", talk about the REAL problems that exist here, and how can one do that without being truthful? And the truth in brazil is not pleasant. And then brazilians get angry and as the one idiot above remarked, "people in my neighborhood would kill you"??? Seriously, what is that? Sounds like many in the brazilian population have many of the same attitudes they did in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia....f**king ridiculous some of you people.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 10:40:24
"Sounds like many in the brazilian population have many of the same attitudes they did in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia....f**king ridiculous some of you people."

Couldn't have said it better. How do some of these people expect their situation to get any better if they're too blinded by pride to cope with reality?
Poser & LIar
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 10:56:57
"Regards, an American/Brazilian/Porto Rican"

Bulls**t, no Boricua writes "Porto Rico"!
To the idiota who wrote . . .
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:05:16
"american government is the biggest bully out there right now and nobody likes bullies, ask anyone in any country, ive been around and i can see that every other country is being f**ked over by american ,,,, "

Moron you are! My next s**t will be a gold brick if you've even seen much of Brasil, much less the world you stupid f**king liar.

My grandmother came here (Florianpolis) after being rescued from Buchenwald concentration camp by the US army - we know Americans and what they stand for.

Viva America!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:06:13
Team America, f**k yeah!
Missing the point
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 12:17:26
OK...OK....it seems that everyone has something negative to say about each other but the point is the brazilian people are the only ones to blame.We (brazilians)think we are soooo smart but we were able to elect an illiterate incompetent corrupt clown (IICC) for president.
Since the discovery by the Portuguese Brazil is being screwed by crooked politicians and they are uncapable of doing anything about it.
Poor Brazil....
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 13:06:58
Predicting the demise of the United States of America is practiced all across Latin America, as it has been for years, and is not only as venerable as predicting the success of Brazil, it is as uncannily accurate.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 13:11:11
You guys catch everything. I like that. I like to throw in a little something to see if it gets corrected. Seriously! Correct, Correct, Correct! Get an actual clue as to whats going on. The drug/street gangs and the governments are f**king with you, and you just put up with it. Learn how to fight both physically and mentally. Call me a poser & liar. Even call me a loser. IҒll never let governments or gangs f**k with me.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 15:06:00
""Even call me a loser. I’ll never let governments or gangs f**k with me.""

You'll stop them how? By words like a f**king arab.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 16:12:28
Does anyone ever make intelligent, constructive comments on this site?
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 16:15:45
"My grandmother came here (Florianópolis) after being rescued from Buchenwald concentration camp by the US army - we know Americans and what they stand for. "



the white house is being manipulated by the likes of your grand mother, of course you would say that...what Hitler did to you was bad but you are doing the same to your own brothers in Israel. white house needs a strong foot hole in the middle east to protect its investments and thats where you coming. without oil they would leave you guys there to fend for yourselves in a heartbeat.

drugs are one of the oldest way a government can control the population, keep everybody hi and people wont try to start a revolution. the united state is the master of this just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame.

the only time there is a problem like it is now in Sao Paulo is when the government and the gang leaders don't see eye to eye about money and power. these gangs are the government agents and do their dirty works for them.

and now that the police are under attack the only one that will protect the police and back them up is the public ,,,so they put the fear o in public to fill the hole they dug for themselves which brings us back to the point of this discussion in the first place..
stay human, wake up and educate yourselves
Like I said.
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 16:54:37
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 17:07:26
I'm no huge fan of the US but I think you better revise this statement . . We all know this isn't true.

"just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 17:44:27
quote:


"the united state is the master of this just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."

What ignorance!!!! You obviously have never seen, nor been to, the favelas!!! Even ANY brazilian will readily admit that the reality of the favelas doesn't even come close to existing in the U.S.

What an idiotic remark!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 17:49:16
quote:

"I'm no huge fan of the US but I think you better revise this statement . . We all know this isn't true.

"just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."



LOL..this is EXACTLY the type of ignorance that you not only experience on this site, but in brazil!!

Great statement...keep 'em coming, you only make it easier to prove our point!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 17:49:44
would love to see you take the wrong way in new york or LA , puts the favelas to shame because us has so much more to protect and serve wich they dont
poor English - utter inanity
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 17:51:34
Anti-semites are well divorced from the truth - I don't know why so many of them are also anti-American unless there is some kind of syndrome involving both pathologies.

I am a Jewish Brazilian who is American educated (Univ. of California Santa Barbara undergrad, UC Los Angeles grad school) and am appalled by the ignorance of posters here about Jews, the US and even BRAZIL!
I know of no instance where Brazil is served by bashing the US, and this s**t about the Jews doing this and that is just plain stupid.

The claim "just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame." is to be condemned not only for its poor English but for the utter inanity which renders suspect all this putz's claims.
LOLLLLLLLLL
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 18:12:20
VERY FUNNY TEXT


THE GUY IS ABLE WALK AROUND THE CITY, GI BACK HOME,WATCH SOME TV,MAYBE GOT SOME WINE.

PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT BAD TIME OR CIVIL WAR MEANS

A CITY OF 20 MILLLION PEOPLE ,130 PEOPLE DIED AND THEY GO CRAZY THNKING IS THE ARMAGEDON



REMEMBER, PEOPLE WHERE INSIDE THEIR HOUSES,WATCHING TV A PROBLEM EATING SOME NICE FIOOD



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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 18:12:28
and its not Anti-Semitism more like observation and disappointment in humanity, I like Jews as much as I like Moslems, your religion has no effect on me its who you are personally.
and yes I am still trying to learn English and also Portuguese so please pardon my language dear professor.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 18:26:36
quote:

"would love to see you take the wrong way in new york or LA , puts the favelas to shame because us has so much more to protect and serve wich they dont"


What???

Are you that ignorant?? Do you think that I haven't been to some of the worst parts of the U.S.???

And I've been in brazil for nearly 10 years....they are two different REALITIES.....completely different!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 18:33:14
where you in new orleans a few months ago also? we saw how united states protected its citizens there didnt we...
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 18:38:17
i took a wrong turn in salvador carnaval and entend the favela....had to run a few blocks but you know im still here
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 18:39:59
LOL...a hurricane, the worst in american history, a natural disaster, a little different would you say professor??

Their response has been something different, inexcusable, and because of that FEMA is now being completely overhauled. But are you actually going to try and use a natural disaster as an excuse??

Tell me, what do you think Rio de Janeiro would be like, and the aftermath, if they just had a normal hurricane that hits the southeastern U.S. coast every year??

Be honest!
P{lease Elaborate . . .
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 18:57:55
re - "its not Anti-Semitism more like observation and disappointment in humanity"
no more defense . . .
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:03:05
"drugs are one of the oldest way a government can control the population, keep everybody hi and people wont try to start a revolution. the united state is the master of this just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."

IN response I said this:

"I'm no huge fan of the US but I think you better revise this statement . . We all know this isn't true."

- meaning that the favelas in Brazil are much, much worse than any slum in America. The poster above was stating the contrary.

Did you bother to read what this quote related to you dumb little chimp? Obviously not! I am usually given to defending Brazil and its people but so many of you really are f**king mentally deficient.

Here is what your f**king retarded ass said:

"What ignorance!!!! You obviously have never seen, nor been to, the favelas!!! Even ANY brazilian will readily admit that the reality of the favelas doesn't even come close to existing in the U.S.

What an idiotic remark!"

Who's the idiot here? Goddam you people really are stupid. I give up - there is no hope for that country!! f**kING IDIOTS!!!!! Makes one just want to bang their head against the wall . . .

UK & USA
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:04:56
What a Canadian joke - Canada has the freedom to be pussified because the US and UK provide for her defence.
She is like a pesky brat that people leave alone because her big sister is the toughest one on the block and her mom still kicks ass. She'd be screwed without them.
The good news is that the west of Canada is full of 'Americans' that are Canadian nationals.

So sad - Canada kicked ass in WWII, then practically disarmed.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:08:37
"She'd be screwed without them."

She'd be 'Nova Kamchatka'!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:09:20
And Brasil would be part of the Japanese Empire!
re: no more defense
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:10:28
dude, you need to chill out, I'm american, and I'm the one who posted

"What ignorance!!!! You obviously have never seen, nor been to, the favelas!!! Even ANY brazilian will readily admit that the reality of the favelas doesn't even come close to existing in the U.S."

In response to the statement..

"the united state is the master of this just take a look at the slums in us...puts the favelas to shame."


Different people posting those remarks my man...read it again.
She\'d be screwed without them . . .
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:11:13
Neither the UK or US would ever let anything happen to Canada from abroad.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:12:18
Nobody loves Brazil the way they love Canada - what have we not done or done wrong?
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:18:18
jesus man, don't think you could expect the U.S. gov't. or americans to love brazil as they do canada, or england. Afterall, look how combative the brazilian gov't has been towards the U.S. at every opportunity since the Lula administration.

The one million illegals doesn't help matters either.
Uniqueness
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:21:30
To the Americans and Brits, Canadians are not really foreign - but we are more unique than the Anglo-Saxons, who basically have a shared culture across a number of political units - culturally there is more difference between a Bahian and a Santa Catarinian then between a Canadian and an Aussie.
We need to take care of ourselves and learn to be an adult culture without losing that uniqueness, then it won't matter who loves us because we'll love ourselves.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 19:59:52
What a Canadian joke - Canada has the freedom to be pussified because the US and UK provide for her defence.



oh yeah eskimos are going to attack us anyday now,, the only attack if any is going to be from the us side and the s**t they and the british are causing in the world . if you where an adult you would not see the need to use profanity so much.
wake up
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 20:12:17
the U.S. would never attack canada, lol. They'll do just as big brother tells them, and they know that, it's why many canadians dont like the U.S., they're well aware that they don't have much choice.

At least you have to give them credit for accepting reality.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 20:16:37
well do you see any canadians in iraq?? not because for once they took a stance againts injustice...this time they said no to the big brother and i hope the have the curage to do it again in the future..
yes and ive seen many americans traveling the brazil and argentina with canadian flags on their bag packs .... i wonder why that is...huh?
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 20:44:07
I've never seen it, they're certainly not in mass.

And don't flatter yourself, the U.S. doesn't needs canada's military presence....if that's what you would call it, LOL.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 20:54:31
im against all military presence any where...to.think for a country to train its youth to kill other youth... actually pick up a gun and kill another human being. how sad the world is..
yes i am proud to live in canada,
imagine the world with out borders imagine the world with out weapons imbrasing each others culture and colors and music and food...not killing not seperating...
if you think im wrong then listen to some bob marley or some jon lenon,,
wake up and educate yourself
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 21:41:47
imagine all the people, imagine if you can....

we are the world...we are the children....


Jesus man, wake up and spit!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:09:57
well do you see any canadians in iraq?? not because for once they took an inventory and their testes were missing . . .
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:12:05
""ive seen many americans traveling the brazil and argentina with canadian flags on their bag packs""
And I saw crop circles. and fairies I saw. and ET smoking a bong with the little mermaid!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:20:57
yeah, we americans really display the flags of other countries in mass(roll eyes).....kinda like it was here in brazil 4-5 years ago, you couldn't go anywhere without seeing gangs of women with american flags on the purses, jeans, shirts, jackets, whatever. 4-6 years ago you saw people in brazil wearing american flags MUCH more often than they wore the brazilian flag.....true story.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:27:20

""ive seen many americans traveling the brazil and argentina with canadian flags on their bag packs""
And I saw crop circles. and fairies I saw. and ET smoking a bong with the little mermaid!

well do you see any canadians in iraq?? not because for once they took an inventory and their testes were missing . . .

"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:29:48
that's why canada is a "back seat" country, they're not up to leading.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:32:38
funny last time i was there osamas pictures where flying everywhere...lol
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:33:37
"Who's the idiot here? Goddam you people really are stupid. I give up - there is no hope for that country!! f**kING IDIOTS!!!!! Makes one just want to bang their head against the wall . . ."

relax, everybody has a point of view based on a very personal experience. it can be really hard to understand someone next door, much more a gringo. I'm not saying favelas are ok, but in Bra favelados can even have an ok life b/c they are the weakest of the worldwild system and do what they can to survive, so a lot of times those people are happy ones, sometimes have cable tv, which if you see their situation, as a brazilian you can't help but smile, they are friendly, they dance in the sambas schools and in the long famous Carnival. You know, it is VERY hard to transmit a whole lifetime experience and culture. People study a lot about cross-cultural experiences.

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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:41:41
quote:

"as a brazilian you can't help but smile, they are friendly,"

I wouldn't blanketly describe them as friendly. Most favelas are a dangerous place, and certainly not a place for a gringo to take a "cultural tour". People get murdered in the favelas in brazil everyday.

Have you seen the documentary "Falco, meninos do trafico"?? A sad and realistic look at the brutal and dangerous life for many in the favelas, for kids as young as 8-9 years old.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:47:50
i mean how they can have cable tv and etc.? drug traffic and other stuff. they didn't created what exist, they do what they can to survive. I don't defend drug dealers, but see mine it's a different set of thoghts? if they had work and all and people were not hungrily demanding drugs they would probably doing something else?
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written by Guest, 2006-05-19 22:57:32
well, yes, favelas are not to be taken to a tour. reminiscences of one remains in my neighborhood and I meet people who live there now and them on the street