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Brazil: São Paulo, Bring In the Marines and Army, Navy and Air Force! PDF Print E-mail
Written by Carlos Chagas   
Tuesday, 16 May 2006

Carcass of a burned down bus in São Paulo, BrazilThere is only one solution for this unfinished rebellion by São Paulo's organized crime. And as difficult as it is to be adopted it would give back to Paulistas a minimum of peace of mind to go out on the streets. And the solution it to bring in the Armed Forces to repress one of the most shocking shows of animality Brazil has ever seen.

It would be necessary that governor Cláudio Lembo accept the idea to ask Brasília to send in the Army, the Navy and the Air Force to take over the whole state.

Without forgetting the Marines. They would not only serve as police in the streets of the capital and main cities, but would also invade rebellious prisons and would act preventively in other establishments where the situation is still normal. They have to make a show of force. Without this public authority would have no authority and it would be better to turn over the Bandeirantes' Palace (the governor's office) to the drug lord Camacho and his seven cronies.

Even locked in the maximum security prison of Presidente Venceslau, or in any other place for that matter, the chiefs of the organized crime will continue instructing their thousands of pals in prison or in liberty to continue to live in debauchery and in disrespect of the institutions.

There is information that  many of the 2,000 prisoners who had been freed by the courts to spend Mother's Day at home are using their time to attack and kill indiscriminately policemen and other citizens.

It's the supreme irony, better yet, it's the supreme tolerance of crime by the law and the Justice. If it's true that the bandits get their cell phones, drugs and even weapons through visitors who come to see them those visits should be suspended indefinitely.

If they receive such material from bad penitentiary agents and from policemen in charge of watching them, then this gang should be locked behind bars. If they use a thousand legal resources given by the Penal Code to get rid of their sentences, it's  the Penal Code that should be revoked.

What can't be done is to let things continue the way they are. If we cannot accept the idea that the only good bandit is a dead bandit at least we should accept the truth that a good bandit is the one who is in jail and tied up.

The Armed Forces are ready to answer to an eventual request by the São Paulo government. Instead of embarrassing and weakening the power of the state would only be strengthened by such a request.

Cowardice

Inconsistent, extemporaneous, without proof or evidence, slanderous, defamatory, injurious, above all coward. It was with these adjectives that Brazilian capital Brasília reacted to the weekly newsmagazine Veja report, denouncing the existence of a Lula's bank account overseas.

The main parties' leaders, even those from the opposition, understand that the published material is just a collection of garbage that have no weight as a serious charge or accusation.

Naturally, if there were proof to the contrary, the Congress would have to intervene, but the way everything was presented the impression we have is that all of this is nothing more than another idiosyncrasy on the part of the press against the government and the Workers' Party (PT).

Both made monumental mistakes, both wallowed themselves in the mensalão (big monthly allowance) scandal. But to go ahead and announce the existence of a bank account overseas goes a huge distance.  This involves irresponsibility and crime by the press.

All the coverage is based in characters who have been linked more to crime than to the economy and politics. From Daniel Dantas to the former CIA agent Frank Holder, both cited in the story, nobody in their right mind would buy a used car. The same goes for some hacks who call themselves journalists.

The latest information suggests that the government is going to act firmly within the limits defined by the law. Without sacrificing freedom of expression, the Justice Department, the Attorney General, the Federal Police and the Public Defense Ministry are getting ready to demand that those responsible for the accusations show proof of their charges.

The irony of the story makes us think about another one, a few years back, when bandits forged the existence of a secret account involving former President Fernando Henrique Cardoso, late São Paulo governor Mário Covas, São Paulo mayor José Serra and other members of the past administration.  The charges demoralized their creators, the same way these accusations seem to have done.

As incredible as that may seem, the oppositions are the ones that will lose the most, because this story is a strange object, and it's worth to repeat, essentially coward, amidst serious investigations and charges concerning scandals that have been probed. It even looks like something done by someone who wishes to help Lula get reelected president.

Carlos Chagas writes for the Rio’s daily Tribuna da Imprensa and is a representative of the Brazilian Press Association, in Brasília. He welcomes your comments at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Translated from the Portuguese by Arlindo Silva.

Comments (123)Add Comment
We need this revolution
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 12:38:30

I propose an armed government organization that would kill corrupt politicians and criminals, starting by Cludio Lembo and going all the way up to Lula.

The project should go to Lula's office and as he cannot read properly, he would sign it and the revolution would start.

Also there is only one cure to stop the Sao Paulo bandits: bullets in their heads.
????
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 13:06:25
HEY, EVER HEARD OF THE ELECTRIC CHAIR OR THE HANG MAN'S NOOSE? NO, YOU ARE LETTING CRIMINALS GO HOME FOR MOTHER'S DAY. GET A CLUE!
Enough is enough!
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 14:50:42
The big threat our country is facing does not come from the criminals. As powerful as they are now, they can still be destroyed without much difficulty, just a matter of having our armies and police forces willing to do so. Our big threat comes from our politicians! No matter what party they belong to, be it PSDB or PT, they are f**king our country. Curing criminality is not a matter of education or caring for the poor. It's a matter of just killing the bad guys, be them criminals or politicians (that's all the same anyway).It's the politicians who lie to us while making agreements with criminals. If we do not stop them, the criminals will be governing us pretty soon.

I completely agree to the first poster. It's time for us brazilians start to kill our politicians. Words won't help us anymore.
...
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 16:28:40
I've been saying that for years. Why do you think that american politicians rarely steal public monies?? Because the U.S. has a history of assassinating politicians, even presidents. If you f**k the people, you only f**k yourself.That is exactly what needs to happen here in brazil!
You\'ll take it - each and every one . .
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 16:40:57
You Brazilians are going to sit down, shut the f**k up and take it just like 95% of people in the world TAKE IT!!! You are all talk just like Americans, Russians, Germans, Brits, Aussies, etc. Everyone is so f**king full of s**t it makes me laugh. What are any of you going to do about it?? Name one thing any of you will do in the next year besides cast a ballot for another crooked politician?

If these gangs hadn't been killing police and firemen the government would have simply let them slaughter you civilians - they [Lula, Inc.] doesn't give a flying f**k about you. Lula would rather see you dead. I like to hear all the heated talk though - it makes for exciting posts.

Now vai tomar uma caipirinha, have a nice feijoada then wake up tomorrow and lube your bunghole so the government can overtax you, spend more money on chauffering around government functionaries than on prisons, pay senators for votes and let the rich get even richer while f**king you right up the ass and you say thank you sir may I have some more . . . Don't worry you will be in very f**king poor company right along with all the bitching, moaning worthless fat-ass f**king loser Americans who do absolutely nothing to throw out their Liar-in-Chief . . .
...
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 16:53:22
and just what worthless piece of s**t country are you from??? Dare to say?
...
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 16:57:17
THE BIGGEST - ANY GUESSES?
USA
That Poster.......
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 17:08:24
f**kit
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 17:09:59
USA the biggest f**ked up of all countries...give me a breack.
If you don't have anything productive to say shut the f**k up.
The american a*****es that are posting here: f**k you all!!!
That Poster........
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 17:11:34
The "You'll Take it" guy is a joke and a waste of good air. He is not an American, but you have to understand that we have IDIOTS like him that live here, very unfortunately. Too bad we can't round up all these losers, put them in a country and let them live under Saddam and Osama, which is what they deserve!
...
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 17:29:17
Well i am an American with a great love for the brazilian people. and that guy is a moron and a fool. american or not.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-16 17:32:32
And it's great that Brazilians can curse out the evil americans , but when one american idiot blathers on incoherently about your f**ked up country, you cry and tell him to shut the f**k up. You obviously have nothing to offer but bitterness and moronic nonsense.
funny.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-16 17:46:18
I'm american, and I live here in brazil, for quite some years now, I have family here, children, that are brazilian/american. When all the problems are weighed against the benefits, the U.S. wins hands down. I'm sorry, but I hate to think of my children being raised here in brazil for the rest of their childhoods. At least in the U.S. if you have cash, you can escape most all the negatives that exist there. Here in brazil, it doesn't matter if you're Bill Gates, you're still living in a self-imposed prison called "home", behind gates, walls, and electric fences. You'll take your kids to school in a car protected by bullet-proff glass, and have to hire security to ensure they're not kidnapped.

All of this and more, the poverty hits you in the face, its inescapable. Why do people think that literally 10's of thousands of brazilians risk life and limb, mortgage everything they have to try and enter the U.S. illegally. And we're not talking about only poor people naturally, poor people in brazil could never dream of coming up with 10,000 dollars to try and enter the U.S. illegally. Brazilians know they're reality, and so do I. I'm truly saddened by it, for my children if for no other reason.
Chagas-BPA rep! ? Bring in the Army
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 18:32:53
I look forward to seeing Mr Chagas repeat his ridiculous views on Observatorio da Imprensa one day!.
Apart from the Federal Police and a newly trained elite force,the Armed Forces in Brazil are even less prepared to deal with the criminal gangs.
Army barracks are assalted in broad daylight!
There is now just a chance that the events in Sao Paulo will concentrate the minds of the legislators and the Judiciary into action which, for example, severely limits the capability of prisoners to organise from behind bars: common sense to most people but then you are talking about politicians and judges who so often lack the courage and the will to make real changes.
...
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 19:05:14
USA the biggest f**ked up of all countries...give me a breack.
If you don't have anything productive to say shut the f**k up.
The american a*****es that are posting here: f**k you all!!!

The USA is the most f**ked up and evil of all countries - PERIOD!! Now since your f**king retarded ass has nothing to add either, sit down, shut the f**k up and prepare yourself for another ass reaming by the powers that be. LOL!!! LOSERS!!!!!
govt vs nation
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 19:07:36
Is there a nation without the government, any government? I say there is, some believe the two are inextricably linked to one another.
f**king American Jerk-Offs
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 19:12:25
The "You'll Take it" guy is a joke and a waste of good air. He is not an American, but you have to understand that we have IDIOTS like him that live here, very unfortunately. Too bad we can't round up all these losers, put them in a country and let them live under Saddam and Osama, which is what they deserve!

You're a perfect example of the biggest f**king idiot the USA has to offer!! Love the naivete though. Yeah yeah - Land of the Free (phones tapped, internet monitored and soon to be purchased by big telecoms, slaughtering innocent people all over the world, soon to be bombing Iran, getting your head handed to you by the Chinese). f**king hilarious. You're the kind of a*****e that drives around with an American flag and 5 "I support the troops" stickers on your gas guzzling ride. f**kING LOSER!!! LOL!!

BTW - I am American!! And in case you haven't noticed you do live under a dictator even more murderous than Saddam. "I wish we could round 'em up and make em BLA BLA BLA". Shut the f**k up you spineless little prick. Now go sing God Bless America . .
Brazilian lying about being American??
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 19:18:25
"Well i am an American with a great love for the brazilian people. and that guy is a moron and a fool. american or not."

Behold - a sentence from an American educated idiot (or so he says). Can you count the number of grammatical errors in that sentence that add up to a f**king little s**thead Brazilian who is so ashamed of his country and heritage that he lies about being American? Shame on you!!! We all know you're not American friend. Americans are f**king retards but even a high school graduate can usually put together a better sentence than that.
...
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 19:21:52
"but when one american idiot blathers on incoherently"

Sorry friend - that was neither blathering nor idiotic. Everything I said was the truth and you know it.
american man
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 19:26:11
i am an american married to a brasilian and have been coming to brasil for 30 years, to this stupid anti bush hating american
f**k off and move to russia if you don't like the great USA, i am so sick of all the countries of the world saying how bad the U.S. is then we catch them trying to cross our borders.BRASIL HAS SERIOUS PROBLEMS FACING IT and i hope the best for the whole people and the country.
LOVE IT - \"America, America god . . .\"
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 19:39:01
"i am an american married to a brasilian and have been coming to brasil for 30 years, to this stupid anti bush hating american
f**k off and move to russia if you don't like the great USA, i am so sick of all the countries of the world saying how bad the U.S. is then we catch them trying to cross our borders.BRASIL HAS SERIOUS PROBLEMS FACING IT and i hope the best for the whole people and the country.

Liar Liar - I know you're not an American. THE GREAT USA???? Are you f**king kidding me?? LOL!!!! "Brasil has serious problems [s**t pouring out his redneck mouth]" sniff sniff. We'll all say a prayer for Brazil tonight ok dickhead?!!! You are cracking me up here. Now go get some more ammunition, try harder and come back with some more pseudo-patriotic nonsense. Furthermore who gives a f**k if you married a Brazilian women. In the next post you don't need to repeat that again - WE GOT IT SLICK!!! YOU MARRIED A BRAZILIAN. AND AS YOU"RE A BRAZILIAN YOURSELF THAT MAKES SENSE! f**kING LIAR!!! GRRRRR!! TOUGH GUY!!

stupid anti bush hating American??? WTF?
to the above post
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 20:35:02
post #10
leave him alone, I'm the one you're thinking yor're talking to, IMBECIL,flying merdo, remember? I'm not americana, all right ? He, not sure he's American, nazi. Maybe another f european. and he lives in Brazil for years that
to the above post
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 20:35:03
post #10
leave him alone, I'm the one you're thinking yor're talking to, IMBECIL,flying merdo, remember? I'm not americana, all right ? He, not sure he's American, nazi. Maybe another f european. and he lives in Brazil for years that
...
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 20:38:47
that is for sure, merdões.
Why You cry with all the anti amerivan talk, sisis? snif,snif. What you think educated brazilians think of the american s**t movies? don't cry all right?
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written by Guest, 2006-05-16 20:44:54
"post #10
leave him alone, I'm the one you're thinking yor're talking to, IMBECIL,flying merdão, remember? I'm not americana, all right ? He, not sure he's American, nazi. Maybe another f european. and he lives in Brazil for years that"

"that is for sure, merdões.
Why You cry with all the anti amerivan talk, sisis? snif,snif. What you think educated brazilians think of the american s**t movies? don't cry all right?"

Easy on the Elmers Glue (that would be cola to you s**t-for-brains) there Fernando . . . Did anyone else understand any of that? "Yor're" pretty f**king smart aren't you guy? BTW would you be one of those "educated" Brazilians you speak of?? LOL!!!! Go burn a bus moron!!
armed forces, in Brazil streets
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 20:50:30
I started reading but stop when you said
" Without forgetting the Marines. They would not only serve as police in the streets of the capital and main cities, but would also invade rebellious prisons and would act preventively in other establishments where the situation is still normal. They have to make a show force"
Yes, Have you wonder how many those crminals was killed by police in SP, the same police with a brutal killer fame.
Now your plan is to bring the federal arm in the war, yes because a marine, yes marines, if you don't know they are trained to kill, well at least shoot and a lot till is dead! Now a high caliber arm shooting in SP street or worse the slums will bring the dead toll a little higher, well at least the people in SP and Brazil will be happy to know is only "criminals" dead! Who will belive the dead was inocent?
Hey Keol
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 21:46:25
You are not an American so f**k your stupid self and your sheep!!! The marines are going to shoot your stupid ass!
Poor Brazil!
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 21:52:51
Brazil is a perfect example of a country where justice is a monopoly under the control of the government. Brazil might as well join the EU. At least in Canada you can shoot the monster trying to break into your home.
...
written by Guest, 2006-05-16 22:07:36
Quote:

"Yes, Have you wonder how many those crminals was killed by police in SP, the same police with a brutal killer fame.
Now your plan is to bring the federal arm in the war, yes because a marine, yes marines, if you don't know they are trained to kill, well at least shoot and a lot till is dead! Now a high caliber arm shooting in SP street or worse the slums will bring the dead toll a little higher, well at least the people in SP and Brazil will be happy to know is only "criminals" dead! Who will belive the dead was inocent?"


Reply:

When the LA riots happened, over the Rodney King verdict, The United States Marines were dispatched to help restore order. It helped signficantly.

The SP police and SP firemen have to be given great credit though. It's clear the SP police shed blood and gave their lives to combat the gang attacks and bring back order onto Sao Paulo streets.

It would be nice if Bill Gates or some very wealth person could donate a billion dollars over the course of a few years or decade, to bringing state of the art weapons, vehicles, technology, and facilities to the SP. Upgrading them for future battle with SP gangs.

But Brazil really has to do something about their prison system (which is inhumane and breeds hatred even more) and educational system.

I wish Brazil and the people of Brazil the best.
...
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 05:44:24
quote:


"It would be nice if Bill Gates or some very wealth person could donate a billion dollars over the course of a few years or decade, to bringing state of the art weapons, vehicles, technology, and facilities to the SP. Upgrading them for future battle with SP gangs. "

Brazil doesn't need bill gates to donate billions to update their weaponry. They just spent 10 million dollars to send a brazilian to space for a week that accomplished absolutely nothing, it was a political ploy to win votes.

And as Jack Snow said, the former head of the IMF about approving loans for brazil, "the money normally ends up in a bank account in Switzerland." And numerous brazilian politicians were appalled when he made that statement. You see, here in brazil, even though his statement couldn't have been more true, it's considered "impolite" to comment on the theivery that exists in brazil, especially by a non-brazilian, whether it be true or not.
sad
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 06:48:26
Blood in the streets of Sao Paulo and some posters can only blame the U.S.A. It is time to focus on your own problems.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 08:54:14
Good time to have death penalty now. Both to criminals and corrupt politicians as well. Both those two groups should be afraid.
BEND OVER!!!
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 09:09:51
"Good time to have death penalty now. Both to criminals and corrupt politicians as well. Both those two groups should be afraid."

BULLs**t!!! Time for YOU to be afraid!! The government is negotiating with these criminals as we speak. You have just witnessed another quantum leap in Brazilian lowness. The government is now cowing to the wishes of organized crime on levels never before seen.

As for being scared - that is f**king laughable. They [the criminals - oh I mean the street variety] aren't any more scared than the senators who took money for votes are scared of being prosecuted! LOL!! You are going to take it right up the ass like good little zombies and do as Uncle Lula tells you. You are going to vote for him again and he is going to f**k you longer, harder and deeper when he is a lame duck. Good luck Brazil - now bend over!!!

America, Russia and much of the rest of the world have already bent over and taken it - now it's your turn. You will not do anything just like everyone else in the world. You will sit idly by and watch them steal from you, lie to your faces and offer you peanuts for your tax dollars. You will do exactly as they say!!
lollo
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 09:11:27
brazil practises racism the riots and shootings have everything to do with stinky brazilian racism than anything else. social injustice is racism the whites and jappers have almost all the best positions in sampa while ordinary decent brasilian folk are consigned to the scrap heap. my blood boils when the killer sao paulo police go n the rampage with the blessing of an evil and corrupt elite
lollo
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 09:18:00
brazil practises racism the riots and shootings have everything to do with stinky brazilian racism than anything else. social injustice is racism the whites and jappers have almost all the best positions in sampa while ordinary decent brasilian folk are consigned to the scrap heap. my blood boils when the killer sao paulo police go n the rampage with the blessing of an evil and corrupt elite
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 09:25:59
brazil practises racism the riots and shootings have everything to do with stinky brazilian racism

What a load of bolloks, the people doing the shooting were the criminals. Has nothing to do with racism at all. My wife who is Brazilian is right....Brazilians live in a state of utter denial
lollo
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 09:26:53
brazil practises racism the riots and shootings have everything to do with stinky brazilian racism than anything else. social injustice is racism the whites and jappers have almost all the best positions in sampa while ordinary decent brasilian folk are consigned to the scrap heap. my blood boils when the killer sao paulo police go n the rampage with the blessing of an evil and corrupt elite
Re:Brazil: So Paulo, Bring In the Marin
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 12:09:50

I have to confess that as a Brazilian I am ashamed of our politicians and our judiciary system. To be called a politician in Brazil today is a derogatory term. Our politicians are so shameless that even when they are called corrupts and criminals, irresponsible and incompetents or unpatriotic, they show no guilty reaction or consternation. They continue to smile to the TV cameras or just refer to the whole issue as trivial. They consider that the whole thing is part of politics: their politics. Any honest person when called by any of those names would act in dismay but not our politicians.

What is happening in Sao Paulo should be enough to take thousands or even millions of people in many of the Brazilian cities in protest against the situation and the lack of responsibility and competence of our politicians. We should tell them that we are sick and tired of listening to the same excuses they have. Will that ever happen? I doubt it. Will our politicians ever change? I doubt it. As long as we continue acting as a fragile people the politicians are contented in doing exactly what they are doing; nothing accountable.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 12:37:22
exactly! As long as the policy of impunity exists, why not steal? Nothing happens to you if you're caught. Maybe you won't win the next election. Maybe you'll be removed from office at worst, but the money you stole will never be compensated for.....never.

It's a country that is being ran by a "banda de ladres"!!!
I have a solution
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 12:45:00
Lula should ask Bush to send the American Army into Sao Paulo. It's bored, and needs a little refresher on handling urban warfare.
Where are the protests?
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 12:46:30
I don't think Brazilians know how to protest. Just cower behind their gates and wire like sheep.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 13:00:22
brazilians don't know how to protest, they cower like the cowards they are, they accept getting a 10 foot cock in the ass with a smile on their face and asking for more.

Brazil could NEVER be a threat to the U.S., the U.K., Germany, or even France(god forbid), they know NOTHING about sacrifice, only how to bow to authority, senators, dupatados, etc. It doesnt matter if these politicians stole a billion dollars of public money while the public is dying of starvation.....its accepted willingly! These type of people deserve everything they get.....hopefully, sooner or later, they'll get their fill, but I just can't see it.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 13:21:47
Yeah, it seems that we gave all our courage to the organized crime. They are fearless so why can we not be as such?

During the military dictatorship, as I remember when I was a kid, people in Brazil, students, wives and labor workers would go the streets and face the military police. So, we had courage to protest and even confront the military government, many died and many were arrested and tortured and even deportedӔ from their own country.

What do we see now when the people should show the government who is the boss?

I do not advocate any violence but a simple powerful political showdown of the Brazilian people against the government: oh well, nay, that will not happen!

We are prisoners of our own fears. May God have mercy on the politically feeble Brazilian people!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 13:25:41
things seem easy for you. it is easy to fix the current system in your country? because public defict is the highest in years, your educational system is broke as well.just taxing immigrants won't fix public debt. didn't people vote for Bush? what could you do about it at the tiem, if you think he is not the most efficient politician as 50% of americans did?

no one here is blaming us for anything in Brazil btw.
New day in Brazil . .
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 13:30:36
You are all going to be good little puppets and dance to whatever tune Lula, Inc. plays for you! You will stop with this talk of uprisings, peaceful or otherwise. Now go back to whining and complaining while doing absolutely f**k ALL!! Continue to follow in the footsteps of the chicken-s**t, cowardly people in America, Russia, Iran and Europe.

The government and the criminals who are striking deals with the government own you. Stop worrying about elections and political populism. That s**t is over. Start aligning yourself with the criminal politicians who have crawled out from under their rocks and pledged allegiance to the true power in Brazil - Narcogangs!! This is truly an amazing moment in Brazil. Embrace your future. You are witnessing the birth of a new socio-political process wherein people take what they want in light of government impotence, greed and corruption.
brazilians
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 13:31:55
What a raca! The only thing Brazilians are always worried is the weekend beer, some ass, and next month world cup...and all those intelectuais who are Brazilians and live in the US get a f**king grip.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 13:36:48
LOL....trying staying on point...OK??!!

Obviously with your inferiority complex the size of the amazon you feel compellled to try and look for faults in the U.S.?? LOL!

Listen boy, Brazil doesn't come CLOSE to the U.S. in the social problems that exist!!

We don't have 30% of our populuation making less than 2 DOLLARS per day!

We don't have a minimum wage of "miseria" and the lowest in the WORLD!!

We don't have one of the highest murder rates in the WORLD.

We don't have the 2nd highest number of prostitutes in the WORLD.

We don't have indentured servitude(slave labor).

We don't have the highest rate of unequal distribution of income in the WORLD.

We don't have organized crime gangs that literally shut down sections of international cities (as they do in Rio) and cause "riots" that can be equated to civil wars.

Wake up and spit man! Brazil is for the few that have money, other than that, if you want to try and make a life of it in brazil without money, you want to rely on your hard work and some know-how......YOU'RE f**kED....PERIOD!

BRAZIL IS RAN BY A BANDA DE LADROES!!!!!

THAT YOU'VE ELECTED...AND YOU'RE GOING TO ELECT AGAIN!!! BECAUSE ITS A "SYSTEM" OF CORRUPTION!!!!!!
RE:BRAZIL IS RAN BY A BANDA DE LADROES!
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 13:50:57
By a "Bando" NOT "Banda"

I wish they were only a BANDA instead of BANDO!

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LOL
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 13:53:57
WHATEVER....ITS RAN BY THIEVES. THE INMATES RUNNING THE ASYLUM....UNDERSTAND THAT?
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 13:59:38
Don't bother hanging any of your hopes on the USA cuz it's going down like the f**king Titanic!! I hold out more hope for Brazil than America. Many of you Yanks who live in Brazil are not having your phones tapped nor is the government (as f**king stupid as Lula is) taking you to war only to sit idly by and watch as a bunch of f**king rebels with vintage Russian and Chinese weapons pick the most "advanced" army in the world apart like a piece of rotten flesh. Brazil doesn't have a 3 trillion dollar deficit and the fattest, most apathetic people on earth. That and the Brazilian government didn't kill nearly 3000 of its own people to justify a petro-war. Yeah don't look to America for leadership - it's even more f**ked up than Brazil.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 14:24:38
YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW BRAZIL!!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 15:01:35
"We don't have indentured servitude(slave labor)."

Yes we do, we just don't tolerate it on as large of a scale as Brazil.

(Tomato pickers in Florida, Apple pickers in Michigan, Chinese restaurant workers are brought over by their own people and enslaved)
what?
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 15:24:35
Sao Paulo has a lot of sweatshops of people from colombia, who owners are chineses! What about domestics workers? at least the tomatos pickers in Florida have more benefits. the domestics workers in Brazil won to have their social card sign by the employer some years ago, wasn't this a real labor slave kind?
ah you gonna say that you being a immigrant in America is that bad?
Well you as a Brazilian should go against a f**k politicians or this a*****e who wrote this piece about placing Army in the streets! Brazil f**king police is already a militar f**king organization! razil should put money in professionals, train the f**king police a remove the f**king generals from the f**king command!
Listen \"Americans\"
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 15:39:54
f**king americans think they can say anything about other countries.

Listen suckers, right now what you do in the internet is being tracked, all your phone calls are being recorded and you are being watched while you walk on the street.

You have 2 presidents to pick, both members of the same secret society, so it makes a s**t of a difference who you pick. You have no power whatsoever over your sucky
government.

Your president is more worried about getting more oil for his family than to work for you ass suckers.

So just accept the fact that you have no liberty at all and stay shut before they do something against you, sell all your stuff and go to a country where "freedom" means something (i.e Brazil).

Brazil has problems, but theres also freedom here. And dont dare answering me suckers because there is a fat american (what a redundance, all of you are over weight )
tracking your moves.

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Greetings, "McDonald's", poisoning people in america and in other countries as well since 1948.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 16:09:40
"Listen suckers, right now what you do in the internet is being tracked, all your phone calls are being recorded and you are being watched while you walk on the street."

Ok Huggy Bear - we're listening!! Wow - "Suckers" - that really takes me back. They still showing "Welcome Back Kotter" re-runs in Brazil?
As per the rest of your rant I can only ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Sorry just nodded off there for a second ZZZZZZZZZZ.
Damn sorry - what a redundance eh?
Good job sucker
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 16:19:51
Im Impressed that an american managed to type all that. One would think your fat fingers would be a problem.

As for your answer its nothing more than what you can expect for an american, some random words and no talk about what i posted.

It wasn't an answer really, because an answer needs to have something to do with the question or affirmative, and you just said random bulls**t. Well anyway, it was more than what i was expecting from you rednecks.
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 16:25:50
f**king idiots....comparing a third world country that has a new corruption story everyday in the news, 30% of its own population making less than 2 dollars a day, an estimated 300,000 "sem terra" living on the sides of the road all throughout the northeast in tents made from sticks and hefty trash bags with floors of mud, pregnant women living in these conditions that is comparable to the poorest countries in africa....yeah, compare that to the U.S.A. you stupid son of a bitches....LOL.

I just love to hear these people spout-off and try to compare the U.S. to brazil....LMAO!!! They couldn't show their ignorance any clearer!

By the way, have you idiots heard how all this s**t in sao paulo started??? Now with over 150 murdered??

Some prison guard making around 150 dollars per month recorded the meeting that was held deciding to move the boss of the organized crime group to another prison....he sold the tape to the organized crime gang for 200 REAIS!!!!! Yep, 80 f**king dollars!!! When the gang discovered the boss was going to be moved, all hell broke loose, they called their gangs in the street from their cell phones(yep, cellulars in prison!!), and now we have more than 150 people murdered!!!

EIGHTY f**kING DOLLARS!!!! What does that tell you about brazilian reality??

And freedom in brazil?? For who?? For those with cash??? Certainly not for those making minimum wage!! There is only freedom and justice for those that have relatives or relationships with judges, police, and politicians.....BRAZIL IS CORRUPT TO THE GILLS!!!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 16:54:46
"Well anyway, it was more than what i was expecting from you rednecks."

Hey don't you have a bus to burn or something??

In response to this though:
"You have no power whatsoever over your sucky
government."
THAT IS JUST HILARIOUS considering your government has now just been sold to Narco-gangs for 80$. Now if that isn't typical Brazilian piker behavior . . . Keep your ass inside tonight Huggy Bear. Wouldn't want you to take one between the eyes. LOL!!!
Pass the kibes bro!!
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 17:12:58
Ironic..The rebellion was front page news on the Al Jazirah newspaper.
Brazil has gained a lot of respect in the middle east!

Go Brazil!!
Shut up redneck
written by Guest, 2006-05-17 17:40:41
"Well anyway, it was more than what i was expecting from you rednecks."

--""""Hey don't you have a bus to burn or something??

In response to this though:
"You have no power whatsoever over your sucky
government."
THAT IS JUST HILARIOUS considering your government has now just been sold to Narco-gangs for 80$. Now if that isn't typical Brazilian piker behavior . . . Keep your ass inside tonight Huggy Bear. Wouldn't want you to take one between the eyes. LOL!!!""""--

Again you answer with no arguments to my affirmatives.

Tell me when i said brazil was better at any points and where i bragged about our government. Dont think i did that.

I simply told you the reality, in exchange for your social and economic conditions your life is tracked by your government. Never said that brazil is better than USA at economical aspects.

So i tell you you dont have any freedom at all, and you come tell me something about narco gangs and politic police men? Did i say im in charge of the brazilian police?

Nice job typing again redneck, and next time re-read my posts before "answering" as many times as it takes, 1,5,10, if it takes you 100 times to get the point then go ask for help.

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written by Guest, 2006-05-17 17:41:38
i meant "corrupt police men"
The long lost age of...
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 05:00:18
It is interesting how Brazilians loved the good old military times. In my opnion, a good criminal is one shot in the head and cremeted on the asphalt, but that isn't the style of the majority of the herd with bambi eyes, unless I'm underestimating the latin bloodlust, of course. What could these people probably be thinking, if they want to push the favelados who have nothing to lose, they should do it on their own watch or at least be willing to envision the matter to it's full extent. Like it or not, these are Vice Lords, and leadership doesn't follow logic, bringing the military out, increasing their spending power, swealing their ranks, in a society with pro-military sentiments. Sure, we need the change, but nothing ever changes, spite of a military coup, or favelados coup, so what's the point I'm counting on new police death squads anyhow, if they want to do anything at all, they need to do it very slowly, as slow as drug wars anyways, eventually they will start selling drugs to finance the clean up, but I find middle class drug lords much more charming than a member dos descamisados, don't you?
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 05:30:03
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WHATEVER....ITS RAN BY THIEVES. THE INMATES RUNNING THE ASYLUM....UNDERSTAND THAT?
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An american imbecil has spoken...
Both Brasil and America are stupid!
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 06:21:15
Yeah, it is obvious both countries are falling apart. But as long as I am going down, I'll do it in a house with airconditioning, a wide-screen television, a recliner in front of it, plenty of cheap food, 3 cars, [that run] a growing savings account, and a future for my kids. But the truth is that when Brasil settles down, if ever, I'll be back.
a real brazilian speaking
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 08:07:21
You may be back real soon boy, depends on what the US Senate vote. USA is not diferent from Brazil, there's a lot of criminals here too. What looks diferent is only the law system works fast..and they got a lot of jails. If the US was like Brazil...I think they would maybe have more deads, well any count of deads above 10 in this killing spree style is shoking anyway..like I say what Brazil needs is professionals and a solid system that's all...
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 08:30:25
like I say what Brazil needs is professionals and a solid system that's all...

That's all eh? s**t that isn't much to ask for . . .
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 08:31:59
HEY SUCKERS!! LOL!!
Short term solution!
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 08:51:13
If we build a fence around the Favelas and the police stations crime should be dramatically reduced!
Just need someone to donate the fence.
ne? Bicho
Short term solution!
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 08:52:44
If we build a fence around the Favelas and the police stations crime should be dramatically reduced!
Just need someone to donate the fence.
ne? Bicho
Brazilians
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 10:21:23
They care only about themselfes..They even think is good the world see how macho they are! This web site used to be good. Now all this a*****es Brazilians who are immigrantes in the US and others countries , come here to see one more crazier than them to write what only they can understand "stupidities"
How I know I'm a f**king Brazilian too!
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written by Guest, 2006-05-18 14:02:40
How I know I'm a f**king Brazilian too!

You sure are!! Now go lie down in the corner and shut up!!
Brazilians
written by Guest, 2006-05-18 15:03:21
Nega ta nervosa he!
Tiadelabahia
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 01:03:13
The solution to crime is to attack poverty and racism!
Brazilians....cont.
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 05:33:20
Sua viada rebelde!
Home
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 06:40:45
A lot of Brazilians want go home. But why? Brazilians belong to the world, not only Brazil.
RE: Home
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 09:02:53
I want to go back home!
Dearest Clueless Posers
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 10:04:43
Are most of you f**ks, Brazilian and Gringo alike, so ignorant of the English tongue that you haven't figured out the someone who writes "its ran by . . ."(sic) is not a native English speaker, not even a French Canadian or a Puerto Rican with a decent education would write English so poorly.

btw I am:
Blond
White (well, kind of semi-Mediterranean pinkish brown)
Jewish
Puerto Rican (pro-statehood, for the curious)
Very happy to be a 'natural American Citizen'



I provide this info so that the racists, anti-Americans, anti-semites and anti-blond jerks that lurk here can all have equally at me.

yaala haver!

kj
Innocently Stupid
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 10:20:59
"I simply told you the reality, in exchange for your social and economic conditions your life is tracked by your government. Never said that brazil is better than USA at economical aspects.
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Parvulice . . . .

Do any of you pendejos think that Brazil would not intrude even more into the lives of her citizens if only she had the capacity?

The US government is datamining the point to point call data to learn about social networks involving terrorists, which is a benefit for their citizens - there are positive implications for organized crime fighting as well.
The tech evolved out of commercial and academic (sociological) applications and is probably inevitable.
The privacy issues, though real, are often presented idiotically - no government has the resources to listen in on their citizens'/subjects' ordinary conversations - the beauty of the datamining scheme is that even if a court won't allow listening, it still provides useful info without anti-terror or law enforcement having to monitor actual content.
Parvudade - I agree . . .
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 10:43:05
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"I simply told you the reality, in exchange for your social and economic conditions your life is tracked by your government. Never said that brazil is better than USA at economical aspects.
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Parvulice . . . .

Agreed - American lives (like those everywhere in the 1st world) are tracked by Marketing and Credit Reporting companies much more efficiently than their government (any government?) ever could.

One does notice, that those using this level of screed are stuck in obsolete modes of thinking and are indeed clueless. The 20th century passed them by, and so will the 21st!
Ley Fuga
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 10:47:14
Does Brasil have a "ley fuga"? Can't they arrange for Marcola to 'escape' and shoot the coo in the back?
bunch of brazucas metidos ...
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:06:32
..a gringos....only a Brazilian would take is free time to write about english language corrections and himself! yes Brazilians belong to the world, they already taking even the f**king internet world! send those f**king Brazilians around the world, they love to suck, you just need to say something nice and ilusionist about the country and they fall like suckers! Send them around even to space if I care, maybe Brazil will be better off as a nation if more immigrants move in!
Why are americans so fat?
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:11:40
All that lard to go around got to their brains...

Down with the USA and the Bush Baby.
Why are Brazilians so poor?
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:16:50
All that lard to go around got to only to their politicians...
Why are Brazilians so poor?
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:19:52
Because their system sucks!
Why are Brazilians so criminal?
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:20:36
Because the law here is a joke!
Why are Brazilians so ignorant?
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:23:30
They don't get out much, except for 'on the town'!

The outside world they never see, so they parrot s**t . . .
Why are Brazilians so homebound?
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:26:56
Check out our interstate highways! Mexico did better!
Moron
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:33:14
describing the writer of the following "Listen suckers, right now what you do in the internet is being tracked, all your phone calls are being recorded and you are being watched while you walk on the street. "

I have a bridge for sale, ya habibi, connecting Floripa and the continent . . . only for you, understand, meu amigo 'special, at a special price for such a discerning intellect, si tu queres . . .
Dumbest of f**ks
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:41:30
In Brazil, the government ALREADY OWNS the same kind of data the US gov. had to request from telcos.

They can mine it whenever they get their s**t together, and will listen to whatever interests them with no regards for privacy.

To condemn the USA for protecting it's people by pretending that they are under an NSA microscope is either stupid or disingenuous. Thinking that the Brazilian establishment is more moral than the USA'a is likewise retarded.

Bottom line:
Our goverment stinks at protecting us!
Why is keol\'s dick like tar?
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:47:08
Black, smelly, limp & dirty!
Ya habibi?
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 11:48:51
back to syria, turco!
US spy on the citizens..
written by Guest, 2006-05-19 12:10:25
The diferences between US spying in the citizens is if the person knows he can get a good money suing the gov. In Brazil, kaka